Into Unscientific Chapter 670

 Chapter 670 The paper is published! (Keep going!)

I heard these words coming out of Guzmit's mouth.

Gelman's head couldn't help but subconsciously stretched forward, making a funny movement similar to that of a turtle poking its head.

But very quickly.

The young theoretical physics boss came back to his senses.

He rubbed his big nose vigorously, looked at the paper in his hand again, and a guess suddenly appeared in his mind:

“Mr. Guzmit, could it be the result of Professor Zhao and others?”

 When saying the words "Professor Zhao".

Gell-Mann's face showed a very obvious conative movement.

 Mentioned earlier.

When Gell-Mann was at Yale University, he took classes under Zhao Zhongyao for a period of time.

If it weren't for Zhao Zhongyao later choosing to return to China, they would probably have become a pair of masters and apprentices talked about by future generations.

This is also a great regret in Gell-Mann's life.

However, despite no relationship between master and apprentice, Gell-Mann still maintained his long-term respect for Zhao Zhongyao.

For example, whether in interviews, autobiographies or letters, he would always refer to Zhao Zhongyao as "professor" whenever he mentioned him.

Hearing Gelman's question, Guzmit nodded slightly:

“Yes, the first signature of the paper is Zhao, and there are also several Chinese scientists such as Hsien Teng and K.C.WANG.”

Gelman nodded thoughtfully.

HsienTeng and K.C.WANG naturally refer to Lu Guangda and Wang Ganchang.

At that time, these two names were extremely dazzling in the European and American scientific circles. They blinded the eyes of many people. They were synonymous with genius.

Although Gell-Mann didn't have much interaction with them personally, he had heard of their names.

However, Gelman soon sat up straighter again, with confusion in his eyes again:

“No, Mr. Guzmit, there is no doubt about the abilities of Professor Zhao and Hsien Teng, but.”

“Where did they get the accelerator equipment?—According to the experimental data, the experimental accelerators they used are at least above 30MeV, right?”

　　 Guzmit did not speak, but simply smiled.

as expected.

Gell-Mann also noticed problems with experimental equipment.

 No, to be precise, once the paper is released, almost every scholar who sees the content of the paper will notice this anomaly.

But compared with the earlier Guzmit, Gell-Mann at this time had already seen the details of the paper, that is, the experimental images.

 Hence his words were more of a surprise than a question.

Then Gelman thought of something else and asked Guzmit:

“Mr. Guzmit, from which source did you get this paper?”

 Guzmit looked at John aside and said to him:

“Mr. John, I'll let you introduce this part of the situation—I haven't learned the details yet.”

Mr. John nodded when he heard this and subconsciously held up an orchid finger:

“About five days, no, six days ago, the MIT Laboratory of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology received a package from China.”

“This package was sent from Xiangjiang, via Neon, Maple Leaf Country, and then to MIT.”

“The email was addressed to Mr. Zhao. When I opened it, I saw these papers and a letter, as well as dried rats, a specialty of China's Fujian Province.”

"In addition to saying hello in the letter, Mr. Zhao also expressed his hope to submit this paper to "PhysicalReviewLetters". Since I am an external review editor of "PhysicalReviewLetters", I sent it to the MIT Laboratory."

Hearing this, Guzmit quickly glanced at Qu Runpu, who was talking eloquently, and showed an expression of hesitation.

 But in the end he remained silent.

Mr. John's introduction seems to be ordinary and has no flaws, but there are still several pitfalls hidden in it.

 For example, how did a package from China pass the numerous checks and be sent to MIT?

To know.

 At this time, China is very strict with foreign audits, and foreign countries, especially overseas, are also very strict with China's audits.

  If the package is sent through normal channels, the relevant content of the particle model will still be recorded.

So now it's not a question of how many times the package has been turned over before it's received, but that there's no way John will ever see this thing.

 For example, if it is really a regular delivery in China, the paper should be sent to the headquarters of "Physical Review Letters".

  After all, both Krump and Gellman were external review editors of Physical Review Letters, and Guzmit was the editor-in-chief.

From the emergence of the paper to the present, the review process has always been to send it to the journal headquarters first, and then be reviewed by an external reviewer selected by the journal.

At most, the author of the paper has a good relationship with a certain external review editor, and both parties have privately agreed in advance that that editor will be responsible for the review.

Journals usually turn a blind eye to this situation—but even so, the paper cannot reach the hands of external review editors first.

Hence Guzmit is sure.

The little bald old man in front of me who likes to pinch orchid fingers must have some special contacts with China.

However, Guzmit and John have known each other for many years, so naturally they will not speak out about this issue at this time.

 Then wait until John has finished speaking.

 The three people at the scene fell into silence.

Gellman slowly turned the pages of the paper in front of him, the expression on his face kept changing, and he repeatedly reviewed the contents.

after awhile.

Gellman's eyes suddenly showed a hint of surprise:

"Well?"

Seeing this, Guzmit blinked and asked quickly:

 “Murray, have you discovered anything new?”

Gell-Mann hesitated for a few seconds, and finally shook his head:

 “Sorry, Mr. Guzmit, I just read a certain data wrongly.”

 Guzmit didn't pay much attention to this. At this moment, his mind was completely focused on another issue:

“In that case, gentlemen, what do you think of this paper?”

Perhaps he was worried that John and Gell-Mann would not be able to understand what he meant.

 Guzmit paused for a few seconds and then explained:

 “Well, I am referring to some issues regarding publication.”

 See the publication.

 Hear these two words.

Whether it was Gell-Mann or Qurunpu, the expressions on their faces immediately became a little serious.

 It is well known.

 In terms of time period.

The international papers of Chinese scientists can actually be divided into two stages. The node that distinguishes the two periods is before and after the founding of the People's Republic of China.

 Between 1920-1949.

 In fact, many international students from China have published papers in top journals.

 For example, Zhao Zhongyao's positron results were directly published in Nature.

There is also Mr. Tan Jiazhen, who published the results in "The American Naturalist" in 1930 and Professor Li Ruqi in 1934.

 This article was published in the journal Vol.68, No.716, pp.252-265.

 The author's signature unit of this article is the Department of Biology, YenChing University, Peiping. That is, Department of Biology, YenChing University, Peiping, China.

 The title is [Inheritance of the ElytralColorPatternsoftheLady-BirdBeetle, HarmoniaaxyridisPallas], which roughly translates to the inheritance of the elytra spots of Ladybug axyridis.

Although the impact factor of "TheAmericanNaturalist" hovers around 4 points all year round, it is still very authoritative in the field of ecology and evolutionary biology.

but

 In the second stage from 1949 to the present, it has been more difficult for papers written by Chinese scientists to be published internationally—Chinese scientists here specifically refer to local papers.

Although there is a reason why the rabbits themselves do not communicate much with the outside world, it is mostly due to the academic blockade caused by the political situation.

 So the difficulty here is not just about the process, but also includes some political implications.

 Take "PhysicalReviewLetters" as an example.

 Since its inception three years ago.

 PhysicalReviewLetters, not to mention publishing in Chinese journals, has not received even one submission from Chinese mainland.

At an academic gathering half a year ago, Guzmit happened to meet the editors-in-chief of several other journals.

At that time, Li Zhengdao, who was staying across the sea, happened to publish a paper related to field theory, which was highly discussed.

So everyone was chatting, and the topic came to Zhao Zhongyao and Qian Wushi, these equally famous Chinese people.

 Then we chatted some more.

 The topic turned to the situation of those Chinese students after returning to China, or their academic achievements.

 Even at this moment.

 Guzmit still clearly remembers the scene where all the chief editors put their hands together when a colleague asked "Have you received any submissions from China?"

Of course.

 Although there are relatively few papers from China after the founding of the People's Republic of China, they are not all at all.

  For example in 1951.

Hua Luogeng, who had returned to China at that time, published a paper titled "OnExponentialSumsOverAnAlgebraicNumberField" in the Canadian Journal of Mathematics.

This is also the first well-documented SCI paper after the founding of the People's Republic of China - the concept of SCI had not yet come out at that time, but "Canadian Journal of Mathematics" was included in the SCI database as soon as SCI was established.

  Another example is 1954.

 A woman named Mamie KwohWang published a paper [ATextbook for FreeChina] in "AMERICAN JOURNALOFNURSING".

 It is not difficult to see from the title.

This paper has a certain political overtone—not the kind that discredits China.

Unfortunately.

Due to the serious missing address problem in early document records in the three core WoS databases SCIE/SSCI/A&HCI, many papers before 1972 cannot find their institutional affiliations.

 Therefore, the specific identity of Mamie Kwoh Wang has always been controversial.

Some reports indicate that this person is Ms. Wang Shanlin from Union Medical College Hospital. She graduated from Yenching University with a bachelor's degree and a master's degree from overseas. She was working at Union Medical College Hospital when she published her thesis.

Some people believe that this is Dr. Wang Kui from the Second Hospital of Modu (then called Modu Hospital), and there is also relatively detailed evidence.

I am afraid only the author of the paper knows which of the above statements is correct. After all, there is basically no possibility of repairing the database in the short term.

Looking back to reality.

all in all.

Although the academic blockade is relatively strict at this time, you may not see one or two Chinese papers throughout the year.

  But from a policy perspective, Haidian has not completely restricted the publication of Huaxia papers.

 Otherwise Guzmit would not have needed to discuss the need to publish a paper.

 After a while.

Mr. John used his ring finger to lift his thinning hair and took the initiative to make a statement:

“Mr. Guzmit, I think this paper can be published.”

 Guzmit turned to look at John, pretending to be listening.

John quickly raised his finger and explained:

“First of all, there is currently no order from any federal government unit to ban the publication of papers from China. This is a rule of thumb.”

“That is, no matter how big a stir the paper causes, its impact will only be limited within the rules.”

“The worst result is that this paper will be deleted from subsequent journals, and then we will be sprayed with blood by Mr. Miller of APS.”

When Guzmit heard the last sentence, the corners of his mouth curled up slightly.

However, I managed to hold back my laughter in the end.

The APS John mentioned is the American Physical Society, which is the American Physical Society.

 In terms of relationships.

 Physical Review Letters, the journal edited by Guzmit, is considered a subsidiary publication of APS.

 APS organization has 100% ownership and a high proportion of control over "PhysicalReviewLetters".

 Also, by the way.

  Physics Review series, namely PhysicsReview and Review of Modern Physics, are also journals under APS.

The Miller in John's words is the first-class executive officer of APS, a fat white man with a grumpy personality.

Miller has a nickname called Watering Can. Just hearing this name can tell how much spittle will splash when he sprays people.

 Then under the watchful eyes of Guzmit.

John raised a second finger and continued:

“Mr. Guzmit, the first point I want to make is that the price we may pay can be understood as a risk in a sense.”

“Since there are risks, the next thing we have to analyze is naturally the possible returns of the paper.”

 Follow.

John suddenly waved his hands vigorously in the air, and he could vaguely see the shadow of someone from later generations:

 “Mr. Guzmit, I can assure you.”

“Once this paper is released, not only Europe and the United States, but also the global physics community will be shocked!”

“After all, the particle model mentioned in the paper needs further verification, but at least in my personal opinion, the accuracy of this particle model should be very high.”

“Those Chinese scientists may take this opportunity to ascend to the altar, and “Physical Review Letters” will be the first journal to publish it.”

 Speaking of which.

John suddenly locked his eyes on Guzmit and said word by word:

“PhysicalReviewLetters” will also be permanently recorded in the history of science together with this paper.”

“By then relying on this popularity, “PhysicalReviewLetters” may even have a chance to become the new king of physics!”

“The more important thing is, Mr. Guzmit, I wonder if you have noticed that this model supports particle spin.”

 Hear the words particle spin.

 Guzmit's eyebrows suddenly twitched fiercely.

 Mentioned earlier.

Even though Guzmit is now over sixty years old, the passage of time has already turned his originally dark and thick hair into thin and gray. In the eyes of everyone, he has become a "respectable elder".

But in fact.

  Guzmit is actually a standard young genius. He almost discovered one of the most critical particle properties in the history of particle physics:

 The spin of the particle.

 It is well known.

  In 1896.

Zeeman discovered that when an atom is placed in a magnetic field, some of its spectral lines will split from one to three.

This is called the (normal) Zeeman effect.

  However, in early 1897.

Preston discovered that the number of splits of atomic spectral lines in a magnetic field could be other than three, so he called this the anomalous Zeeman effect.

Normal Zeeman effect can be explained by the energy level splitting of Bohr atoms in the magnetic field, but this will deduce that the number of spectral line splitting can only be three, and cannot be other numbers.

 As a result, the anomalous Zeeman effect becomes difficult to understand.

 Then in 1922.

  The Stern-Gerlach experiment verified the quantization of atomic angular momentum, but this is only one of the important conclusions of this experiment.

 Another important result is that the even fission number results that are inconsistent with Bohr's theory appeared in the experiment-this implies the existence of half-integer quantum numbers.

 In order to explain the anomalous Zeeman effect and the difficulties in the Stern-Gerlach experiment, 25-year-old Guzmit and Uhlenbeck proposed the concept of particle spin.

 This concept initially encountered a lot of criticism and criticism.

  But after being successfully verified by project teams one after another, it quickly became an important parameter in particle physics.

At that time, Guzmit and Uhlenbeck were transformed from heretics into the future light of physics in four months.

 Their teacher was called Ehrenfest, and Ehrenfest was a student of Boltzmann.

So almost everyone in Boltzmann's department was partying at the time, shouting that it was our duty to recast Boltzmann's glory.

but

　What no one expected is this.

Nearly 40 years have passed, and particle spin still has not won the Nobel Prize. The reason why this result did not win the award is very simple:

 There is no more in-depth phenomenon or data in the physics community to prove its value worthy of a Nobel Prize.

 That's right.

 Since the discovery of spin, its theory has been stagnant for almost forty years.

 Later, Guzmit joined the Manhattan Project team and traveled around after the war.

Nowadays, if they are not close acquaintances, not many people remember that this little old man was also a young emperor back then.

more importantly.

 Different from the open-mindedness of his good friend Uhlenbeck.

  Guzmit has always regarded it as a regret that he did not win the Nobel Prize.

 After all, this award is different from the X-Chicken Award. After all, it still represents the highest academic peak.

  Guzmit even wrote a very pessimistic sentence a few years later:

  【Because of the lack of that honor (Nobel Prize), I will die with my eyes in peace】.

 Now with the emergence of this paper, or in other words, with John's suggestion.

Guzmit suddenly realized something:

This model called metahadrons actually explains the parity part of the particle spin!

  That is, the value of intrinsic angular momentum will directly affect the partial state of certain particles, which is the degeneracy pressure mentioned in the paper!

 With the support of such a model, the importance of particle spin will instantly increase a lot.

 It is true.

Once this paper is proven to be true, the Nobel Prize that year will definitely be awarded to the publisher of the paper.

But on the other hand.

  Guzmit had no intention of competing for the order of the award. All he cared about was the Nobel Prize itself.

 Whether it is three years later, five years later, or ten years later.

 As long as he can win the Nobel Prize while he is alive, he will be satisfied.

 Besides

This kind of example of a theory put forward by predecessors that was not taken seriously, but was indirectly proved to be important by some research by later generations and eventually won the prize, is not unheard of in the history of the Nobel Prize.

 For example, Walter Bott's award-winning conformity method.

 The conforming method was first invented in 1924. It is one of the earliest AND logic gate circuits.

But it was not until Edward Mills Purcell and Felix Broch won the Nobel Prize in 1952 for their discovery of nuclear magnetic resonance that Walter Bott received the highest honor two years later.

no way.

 Physics is like that.

Many results are indeed not worthy of a Nobel Prize before their value is discovered, and this will still be the case even in 2023.

Not to mention that this paper can also bring a lot of attention to "PhysicalReviewLetters", which is also a great help for Guzmit.

after all

 "PhysicalReviewLetters" has only been published for two and a half years, and the number of manuscripts submitted now is actually limited.

 If this is not the case.

The entire journal does not have just three external review editors.

Although APS has no plans to withdraw the publication for the time being, it will be difficult to say if this continues.

“Physical Review Letters” is Guzmit's brainchild. In order to keep this journal in circulation, he even borne a lot of expenses himself.

  Guzmit does not expect "Physical Review Letters" to become a CNS-level publication, but at least it must be able to develop its own ecosystem, right?

And if there is such a journal now.

 Such a big thing can be accomplished!

This logic is just like how a certain novel website can attract many authors by cultivating popular books in later generations. The two words "hot" are core words in any industry at any time - at least one of the core words.

 Thinked this through.

Guzmit's eyes lit up instantly.

However, the editor-in-chief still retained some sense and did not make an immediate decision.

He turned to look at Gell-Mann aside and asked the future boss:

 “Murray, what do you think?”

 “My thoughts”

Gellman thought carefully for a few seconds and finally nodded:

“Mr. Guzmit, I agree with Mr. John's idea—we can publish this paper!”

 Gell-Mann chose to support publishing the paper for the same reason as John. To put it bluntly, the rewards far outweigh the risks.

 But other than that.

 Gell-Mann also has a little more thought:

 This is a paper written by a team led by Professor Zhao Zhongyao.

Although he still cannot understand Zhao Zhongyao's choice to give up the favorable treatment across the sea and return to China, his feelings for Zhao Zhongyao have not changed much.

 At least in Gelman's heart, he has always regarded Zhao Zhongyao as his mentor.

Hence, Zhao Zhongyao is naturally willing to take part in something like this that can add some luster to Zhao Zhongyao's resume.

If Xu Yun was present at this time and could see through Gelman's thoughts, he would probably sigh at this pair of masters and apprentices who were not masters and apprentices.

have to say.

Gell-Mann is indeed a very emotional boss in interpersonal relationships, which is in sharp contrast to his academic rationality.

For example, one thing mentioned earlier:

  Zhao Zhongyao passed away in 1998, and Gell-Mann did not know the news at the first time.

But the year after Zhao Zhongyao's death, Gell-Mann flew to China to pay homage to the old man in May without any academic or commercial invitations.

Another example is the establishment of the Santa Fe Institute, which Gell-Mann later participated in.

The preparation for the establishment of the Santa Fe Institute was in the mid-1980s. At that time, Gell-Mann had already become famous and his position was firmly among the top three in the world of physics.

The main reason why he stepped forward to establish the Santa Fe Research Institute was that he had made an agreement with his friend Wesson thirty years ago to establish a scientific research institution in Wesson's hometown of Santa Fe if there was an opportunity.

　　In 1971, Wesson died in a car accident. Gell-Mann always kept this agreement in mind and finally made it a reality.

 So many people commented that although Gell-Mann was a Jew, he could hardly see the shrewdness of the Jews—he was too emotional.

all in all.

Seeing that Gell-Mann also expressed his approval for publishing the paper, Guzmit made a final decision in his mind.

He pondered for half a minute, then took a deep breath and said:

“In that case, gentlemen, let's publish this paper.”

 Then he looked at Mr. John and said:

“John, this paper was specially sent to you, so you will still be the external reviewer and editor. What do you think?”

Mr. John suddenly looked happy:

"no problem!"

The reason why John took the risk to accept this paper this time was, firstly, because the knife music given by the rabbits was indeed sincere, and secondly, because this paper could bring him a lot of reputation.

Although it is impossible to win the Nobel Prize with this external reviewer's signature.

But it still helps a lot in the selection of his professional title—recently, John is working hard to select academicians of the Academy of Engineering across the sea.

John himself has contacted many people for this purpose, but his current certainty is only about 80%.

But if there is a signature from the external review editor.

 Then he is confident that this certainty will be increased to 95%!

Not to mention that the New Year is approaching, and other large and small organizations have also reached the selection period for directors and directors.

John would still be willing to try some of these positions if given the chance.

What?

You ask John why he didn't just keep silent about this paper?

joke

The Chinese people are not fools. The paper they gave concealed a lot of key data. Now John only has half of the paper at most.

If John dares to take it as his own, Zhao Zhongyao and the others will be able to publish more detailed contents through the Bear Man in minutes.

 The reason why China did not directly follow the path of Mao Xiong was mainly due to the issue of influence - compared with Mao Xiong's top publications, there is indeed a certain gap between them.

But the gap is a gap, and there is no problem with Mao Xiong Journal as a back-up tool.

Not to mention that in addition to academic papers, Comrade John Crump. Wrong, Mr. John also has various off-market transactions with China.

 If the "friendship" between the two parties is affected because of the thesis, then obviously the gains outweigh the losses.

Looking back to reality.

 Based on many of the above reasons.

 After Guzmit opened his mouth.

 John immediately accepted the task of external review and editing.

 Then Guzmit looked at Gell-Mann again, considered for a moment, and said:

“As for Murray, how about you take the time to write a review and attach it to this paper and publish it?”

 Gell-Mann's teacher after missing Zhao Zhongyao was Henry Magenno. Magenno was a disciple of Fermi and a disciple of Born.

Born was a disciple of David Hilbert.

 That's right.

　　 is the Hilbert of Hilbert space.

 So it is calculated according to seniority.

Gell-Mann can be regarded as the disciple of Fermi, the great-grandson of Born, and the great-grandson of Hilbert—a Jew has inherited the academic mantle of the Germans, which is actually quite gratifying.

 That's why Gell-Mann later entered the Fermi Institute and served as a lecturer.

Guzmit belonged to the Boltzmann family. Boltzmann had a good relationship with Hilbert. At the same time, Guzmit himself also had a deep relationship with Fermi - they both participated in Manhattan Project.

So in the scientific research social circle across the sea, where admission to prestigious schools does not depend on grades but letters of recommendation, Guzmit and Gelman are considered standard members of their own group.

 If this is not the case.

  Guzmit could not have recruited Gelman to be an external review editor when "Physical Review Letters" was first created.

 So faced with such a paper that is destined to be a big hit.

  Guzmit took great care and handed over the review to Gell-Mann to complete. This can be regarded as a great favor.

If Gelman becomes famous in the future, he will definitely return this favor to Guzmit's disciples and grandchildren.

 After assigning tasks.

 John looked at the paper in his hand again and asked Guzmit:

“Mr. Guzmit, when are you going to publish this paper?”

 “See the magazine”

 Guzmit thought for a moment and said:

“Let's schedule it next week, and we'll publish a special issue then!”

 Those who know PRL should know it.

  The Chinese name of the journal "Physical Review Letters" is "Physical Review Letters".

 From the word "Express", it is not difficult to see that the review and publication and update cycle of this kind of journal are relatively fast.

 Different from ordinary bimonthly magazines.

 PhysicalReviewLetters is a faster weekly magazine, updated every Wednesday across the country.

 So for magazines.

 It is not difficult to print a paper based on the content of the original journal.

In this case, however, Guzmit chose to publish a separate special issue.

 The Rabbits' paper is very long, and with various images, it stretches to dozens of pages.

These pages will almost double after being rubbed into journal specifications, and the thickness is actually about the same as that of an ordinary journal.

 Secondly, it is very reasonable for a paper of this nature to publish a special issue. There is a difference between the sense of ritual and oriental romance. Many Europeans and Americans also pay attention to this tone.

all in all.

 The whole thing has come to this point.

  What should be discussed about the magazine has almost been discussed.

Seeing Guzmit's expression as if he had something to do, John and Gelman took the initiative to stand up and say goodbye, and left the editor-in-chief's office at the same time.

 “Mr. Murray.”

As a result, just after Gelman walked away in silence, John's voice sounded behind him:

 “Mr. Murray, please wait a moment!”

Gell-Mann stopped when he saw this:

 “Mr. John, what's the matter?”

John walked quickly from behind Gell-Mann, glanced around a few times, made sure there was no one around, and said:

“Mr. Murray, did you have anything to say just now?—before Mr. Guzmit asked our opinion.”

Gelman was silent for a moment and nodded slightly.

John raised his eyebrows when he heard this, and a hint of curiosity appeared on his face:

"what have you found?"

　　Previously, after John introduced the source of the email, Gell-Man had let out a light ooh.

John and Guzmit both noticed this abnormality of Gell-Mann, but in the end Gell-Mann used the excuse that he had made a mistake to get over it.

At that time, Guzmit's attention was all on the paper, so he didn't pay too much attention to this matter.

 But John on the side observed that Gelman's expression was a little strange, and it was obviously not just a mistake.

 But since Gelman did not choose to make it public, John had no choice but to suppress his curiosity and wait until the meeting was over before speaking.

 Facing John's inquiry.

Gell-Mann did not give a direct answer, but turned to look at the bald old man:

“Mr. John, can I ask first about your relationship with those Chinese authors?”

"relation?"

John was stunned for a few seconds, and then said calmly:

“I have a very close relationship with Zhao. Many people know about his work in the MIT laboratory back then. I even gave him some things before he returned to their country.”

“It's hard to say about other Chinese people, but with Zhao, he and I should be considered friends.”

 When John spoke, there was also a trace of emotion in his eyes.

Their family is famous for its business acumen. Many members of the family have a performative personality, and John Crump is no exception.

But he rarely put a lot of true feelings into his personal relationship with Zhao Zhongyao. He really helped Zhao Zhongyao a lot back then, so much so that Zhao Zhongyao even specifically mentioned him in his memoirs.

It's hard to say whether they are close friends or not, but using mutual appreciation to describe their friendship is still very objective.

Gell-Mann then asked:

 “What about the others?”

 “Other people.”

 When mentioning Chinese people other than Zhao Zhongyao, John showed a little embarrassment on his face:

“The friendship with other people is not that deep, it's mainly about the trivial trade.”

John and Gell-Mann have been friends for many years, so they didn't hide this aspect deliberately.

Gell-Mann's eyes flashed with a look that was indeed the case:

“I see, I wonder why those Chinese people sent their papers to you.”

Upon seeing this, John looked around again and waved his hand to Gelman:

“Okay, Murray, I've told you everything you want to know, so what did you just discover?”

Hearing this, Gell-Mann made a calming gesture towards him.

 Then he took out the paper from his armpit and shook it gently towards John:

 “Mr. John, if I'm not wrong”

“The tandem accelerator used by the Chinese for the collision test this time should be..."

“The one that CERN burned down a few months ago.”

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