Chapter 674 Dream Group, something is not right
Li Jie, who finally finished his tactical drink of water, refilled a glass for himself and Chang Haonan respectively, and then hesitated for a moment, looking like he was hesitant to speak.
“Mr. Chang, there is one more thing…”
Looking at this meaning, it is likely to be followed by a question such as "I don't know whether to speak or not."
However, considering that both of them have technical backgrounds, this whole thing was a bit redundant, so he finally said directly:
“I would like to ask, is there any business relationship between your company and Dream Group?”
There seemed to be no connection between this question and the topic just now, which made Chang Haonan stunned for a moment:
“During the centralized procurement, did I buy their computer host...does it count?”
Needless to say, in this era, 100% of the accessories in the PC market are basically imported. Compared with other brands that have to import their entire machines from abroad, Dream Group can at least keep the assembly process in China, so in Public budget procurement eats up most of the market.
Therefore, although Chang Haonan didn't want to see the other party in his heart, he had no choice.
Furthermore, from this perspective, Dream Group made some contribution to China's electronic information industry in the early days.
However, Chang Haonan didn't take it seriously.
If it's two private companies, then it's no problem for the bosses to sit together and chat about everything. If it's not convenient to answer, just go around in circles.
Li Jie waved his hand and couldn't help laughing:
·Although in most cases the cooperation between enterprises will be made public, the details of the ups and downs are also considered commercial secrets.
Furthermore, the situation where the originally smooth foreign trade business of Chinese enterprises was disrupted by insiders introducing external forces has happened countless times in the previous life.
However, Torch Group and Shuguang Group are both second-level state-owned enterprises under the Academy of Sciences system, and they have a completely parallel relationship with each other. Even in terms of business, the former has a closer relationship with the Science and Technology Commission.
Isn't this a subtle hint that Dream Group does not have the ability in this area...
“Such in-depth cooperation naturally does not exist.”
It's a pity that it ends here.
Strictly speaking, it was a bit over the line for him to ask this question.
So he immediately shook his head:
As a reborn person, he naturally knows that the Dream Group is unreliable.
Those who have dealings with Torch Group are institutions or companies with R&D capabilities.
Hearing this, Li Jie finally relaxed.
“This can only be regarded as a normal purchase and sale transaction, I mean, cooperation like this with our Dawn Group.”
After all, he had been planning to target Dream Group two years ago, but he had never mentioned it to anyone else.
“As you know, Torch Group is not large in scale, and its main business is to provide targeted and exclusive technical solutions. Therefore, those who have business dealings with us are basically institutions or companies with R&D capabilities..."
After giving the answer, Chang Haonan also asked with doubts:
“Why did Academician Li suddenly ask about this?”
Immediately realized that there was something wrong with Chang Haonan's words, and couldn't help but chuckled——
“Of course this doesn't count…”
That's why Li Jie was a little hesitant just now.
So Chang Haonan still has this vigilance.
But it seems that Li Jie shouldn't be so sensitive.
After all, according to the timeline, the Dream Group at this time should not have become the conscience of American imperialism.
“This is a long story…”
Li Jie's expression, which had been smiling just now, suddenly turned serious:
"You should know that in the past two years, the superiors were planning to merge the entire computing institute into the Dream Group, so at that time I was always the deputy director in charge of the work, and the director was always named by the CEO of the Dream Group ”
Chang Haonan nodded, but did not answer the conversation. He just motioned for the other party to continue.
"Later, their ambitions expanded and they wanted to take over our Shuguang Group as well. At the highest point, they had obtained 20 million of our shares. However, in the end, because our group's revenue suddenly improved in 1997, it was Didn't let the Dream Group succeed.”
Speaking of this, Li Jie also raised his head and glanced at Chang Haonan.
After all, the somewhat sudden wave of supercomputing craze is still influenced by the latter.
Although after calming down, everyone gradually discovered that without a person as incredible as Chang Haonan to take charge of the work, just having a supercomputer would have limited effect, but in any case, Sugon Group made a lot of money that time, directly Reversing the loss trend of previous years.
More importantly, it injected a wave of confidence into the superiors who were already a bit wavering about this bottomless pit of funds.
Chang Haonan finally understood:
“So, you, or we, have ruined Dream Group's good deeds, so Academician Li is worried that they will use some off-board tricks to sabotage it?”
“Not just worried.”
Li Jie looked solemn and said:
“Actually, when doing business, they want to acquire us, but we don't want to be acquired. It is normal for the two parties to have conflicts or commercial struggles.”
“But since last year, we have obviously encountered some obstacles when importing computer components, some of which are related to production capacity, some to customs clearance documents, and some to review.”
"Although there have been no real problems so far, if Mr. Chang wants to keep a low profile in the electronics industry, he should not only consider foreign countries, but also pay more attention when doing things domestically, or rather , but we should pay more attention to it at home...” ˆ ˆ ˆ Although he and Chang Haonan have business contacts, they have not had much private communication in the past. He only knows that the latter has extraordinary ability in research, and he does not know that Chang Haonan has a series of experiences in the past. role in the incident.
That's why I have such a reminder.
“Don't worry, I'll be careful.”
Chang Haonan naturally knew that the other party meant well, and nodded to express his understanding:
“Besides, I have experience in dealing with this kind of thing.”
Obviously, in the current timeline, due to his series of twists and turns, Dream Group encountered development obstacles in the country early.
Conflicts will occur sooner or later.
Before China truly became the world's factory, the functions played by companies like Dream Group were generally positive.
After all, even if it is an assembly factory, assembling electronic products belongs to the high-tech field and is definitely a valuable industry for China at this stage.
However, when China is no longer satisfied with being the world's factory, these companies that have been used to making money as factories have turned into a dragging role.
This is a structural contradiction.
The more things he does and the greater the role he plays, the sooner China will develop upstream in the international industrial division of labor.
It will be contrary to the interests of the comprador group.
This is actually the same as when he wanted to develop independent aviation industry standards a few years ago, but was blocked by a group of people.
Taking away someone's job is like killing one's parents.
It's just that at that time, Chang Haonan was just a little Kalami with little energy.
Even using the influence of the Science and Technology Commission has to be done through Du Yishan.
There is not much that can be done.
So most of the pressure, as well as the specific countermeasures he came up with, were all done by Ding Gaoheng.
But now, times are different.
In the Boeing merger and acquisition, as well as the upcoming Allied Forces Operation, even Americans dare to have a hand in it, let alone a dream group that has not even fully committed to the United States...
“Academician Li.”
Chang Haonan's character is of the type that he can't fight for short-term gains and losses, but must decide the long-term outcome. At that moment, he already had the idea of sitting down the drain on the Dream Group:
“I wonder if your company is interested in developing into areas other than commercial servers and supercomputing?”
Li Jie looked at Chang Haonan with a slightly curious look, but still nodded honestly:
"Of course there is. After the previous popularity of supercomputing and servers, the market is a bit oversaturated. It would be good if the number of new orders can be maintained without falling. If you want to further improve it, you can either do it like you just said. Either way, we can open up overseas markets or expand other businesses horizontally.”
"However, in areas other than commercial machines, we really don't have the resources... Take the PC market, which has the largest profit margin now, as an example. The entry point has already been laid out. If we go out, firstly, the superiors may not approve this move. This is a repetitive construction, and secondly, you can only pick up some scraps that other manufacturers don't want in the market..."
Objectively speaking, Dream Group does have a good momentum at present. It is very difficult to make a comeback in the opponent's advantageous game.
The opportunity is that in a few years, China's government and enterprise procurement will try to introduce localization indicators for the first time, especially the localization of operating systems.
In the original timeline, this first attempt was ultimately unsuccessful.
But there are still opportunities now.
Hence, what Chang Haonan wanted to do was originally a roundabout strategy:
“In the PC area, it is really unrealistic to compete head-on with those companies right away.”
“However, as you mentioned before, we have established a joint venture with an Italian machine tool company, and we are responsible for the industrial control part.”
“It's just that the software is indeed written by ourselves, but the hardware still has to be purchased from imported models…”
Having said this, Li Jie still can't understand:
“You mean to start with industrial control equipment, microcontrollers, etc…”
“But the level of domestic hardware...”
Of course Chang Haonan had already prepared the draft:
“High-end products are definitely not available now, but we can start from the low-end.”
“No matter the level, we still have to build up the domestic industry ecosystem first. We cannot support an entire semiconductor industry chain by selling supercomputers and servers alone…”
“Do you still have a product line of low-end models?”
Li Jie's focus is a bit different:
“I heard someone say before that the first product you launched was something that had never been produced in China before.”
Chang Haonan waved his hand:
“We definitely don't have a joint venture with Italy. We need to rely on that to gain brand influence, so the three-axis CNC machining center we first released is the lowest-end model.”
“But in the future, an industrial control division may be established to provide other machine tool companies, especially domestic machine tool companies, with solutions for converting ordinary machine tools into CNC machine tools. This segment will definitely focus on low-end business.”
“Although our country's machine tool strength is not strong, the output is actually not low. If we seize this business, although the profit margin is relatively miserable, it will not be a problem to support a set of upstream and downstream industries.”
“When the talent level improves, and then return to the PC market with a high localization rate as a selling point, although it should not be attractive to personal business, it will be enough even if it only eats the cake purchased by sensitive units...”
(End of this chapter)
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