The Military-industrial Scientific Research System of the Academic Master Chapter 326

Chapter 326 Passenger Aircraft, C808 and C909

 “It's not really an interest.”

Chang Haonan shook his head slightly.

“The Paris Air Show is, after all, the largest aviation show in the world today. I just want to track the trends in our country and see if there is any place where I need to provide technical support within my capabilities.”

 There is no way, he can't just jump into the trap and say, "I predict that General Master Dong will face a disease in three years' time, and I'm currently trying to think of ways to help him avoid the disaster."

Now we are almost entering the 21st century, and the craze for researching special abilities has long passed. Saying such words may only be regarded as amusement or curse.

 So in the end we can only give an answer with full compatibility.

 Fortunately, Huai Guomo just asked casually and didn't pay much attention to this matter.

Although the purpose of his visit this time is also related to the Paris Air Show, the focus is still on the large aircraft project that the entire Science and Technology Commission is paying close attention to.

Although the merger between Boeing and McDonnell Douglas has not yet been settled, Europe and China also know that it is impossible to finally stop this kind of thing. It would be of no benefit to everyone to really break up with the Americans, so they have begun to consider their own The conditions put forward.

· The long-pending merger has caused far more damage to McDonnell Douglas than to Boeing. The MD90 project of Hufei has basically stalled, and many engineers sent by the United States have been recalled to work in the country or even dismissed.

After investigation, the working group sent by the Science and Technology Commission concluded that the resources currently received were not enough to manufacture a complete passenger aircraft, so the entire Shanghai Aircraft Company once again fell into a situation of halting work and waiting for materials.

 It's just that this time, anyone with a discerning eye can see it. I'm afraid I can't wait.

Huai Guomo slowly took out one piece of information from the file bag in front of him and placed it on the table:

“This morning, news came back from Paris. After the air show closed last night, people from the Tupolev and MiG families took the initiative to contact us.”

Chang Haonan perked up and picked up the information closest to him from the table.

  is a summary of the meeting.

Similar to all negotiations, the first contact is just to test each other's requirements, so there are no clear conditions involved.

But judging from the fact that almost a quarter of the questions asked by Russian personnel, especially Tupolev's team leader, were about the agreement between China and Europe, it is obvious that they are greedy for the huge power hidden behind it. market.

"Director Huai, I understand Tupolev, but MiG..."

Chang Haonan flipped through the twenty-odd pages in his hand to the end, but he didn't find that the entire project had anything to do with MiG Company.

 He ​​did know that the other party had several passenger aircraft projects in the late 1990s, but they were basically in the drawing-out stage. The only MiG-110 that had been launched also coincided with the positioning of its own MA60.

"Oh, because in the future Tupolev's commercial aircraft will be produced at MiG's Nizhny Novgorod factory, so if we really reach an introduction agreement like Project 11 with the other party, then MiG people will also participate.”

Huai Guomo, who had just returned from an inspection trip to Russia, naturally knew the most about some details.

“Is there such a thing? I don't remember that they have a manufacturing plant in Kazan...”

In the original timeline, the MiG company, which failed to find a stable market for the improved MiG-29, eventually declined completely, while Tupolev relied on dozens of orders for the Tu-204 in Russia and the support for the MiG-29 at the turn of the century. Da Mao managed to survive on the dozens of Tu-160s he got back from Er Mao for repairs, and managed to survive until the new Tu-160M2 order was placed.

As for what happens next, Chang Haonan doesn't know.

"Because of our previous contact with Ilyushin, the two factories in Kazan and Ulyanovsk have begun to move frequently, preparing to take over the business in Tashkent and switch to the production of the new model IL-76MF, Tupolev There are no orders here, so we have no choice but to make preparations. MiG is also in trouble. "

Huai Guomo suddenly laughed when he said this:

"About this, Xiao Chang, you were right before. You can count everything one by one."

"I…"

Chang Haonan was a little confused by the sudden compliment.

 He didn't even know about these things before, and he really couldn't see anything...

Fortunately, Huai Guomo continued:

"Comrade Yang Shuyu from the Navy has already told us that Tupolev relaxed his tone to us and said that Tu-22M3 bombers could be exported. This matter was very controversial at the time, and representatives of the Navy and Air Force were immediately He couldn't make up his mind, but in the end you helped him determine his objections.”

“In hindsight, this should be a move for Tuju to save itself. With the order, it can seize at least one factory to maintain production capacity and wait for changes.”

"As a result, Tupolev did not expect that we, who had some interest in Tu-22M3 in previous years, did not respond at all this time, catching them off guard. No, the attitude towards passenger aircraft has softened. "

Chang Haonan suddenly realized.

Tupolev's current situation is actually similar to that of Hufei, both of which are facing the situation of being forced to suspend production due to lack of orders.

  And because they do not have their own production capacity, once production ceases, supporting factories are likely to find another way to make a living.

 The aviation manufacturing industry, once it stops for a few years, is not that easy to recover.

Furthermore, customers who were originally willing will definitely be affected after discovering that you have lost your production capacity.

So from a purely logical point of view, it was indeed Chang Haonan's original words that led to Tupolev's current crisis, which in turn prompted them to actively extend an olive branch in the field of passenger aircraft.

Of course, the details in between are all imagined by Huai Guomo. In fact, Chang Haonan simply felt at that time that a simple supersonic bomber would not significantly improve the combat effectiveness of our army when the range and bomb load were not significantly improved. That's all.

 But no matter how you say it, the result is always good, and it does make sense.

So he accepted it logically: "There is no way, our financial resources are limited now, so we can only choose the most important models first. Judging from the current situation, we must obtain the production capacity of a medium-sized passenger aircraft to help Shanghai Airline maintain its business The production line, workers and team are the top priority.”

Since the leadership of the civil aviation industry was also taken over by the Commission of Science, Technology and Industry for National Defense in the second half of last year, Hufei, which is responsible for the production of large aircraft, has naturally been fully integrated into the system management of the Commission.

People have already accepted the letter of nomination, so naturally they need to be given some sweeteners. You can't just enter the military industry system and you can't even get orders. It will be ugly to say it out.

Of course, having said that, at this time in the last life, Hufei was still wavering between two completely dead-end directions: continuing to develop the MD90 and turning its head to produce the AE100. Now it is much stronger.

“Yes, but in addition to the Tu-204 that we are focusing on, Tupolev has also proposed another model, which is a regional aircraft with about 100 seats, the Tu-334.”

Huai Guomo said and pushed another piece of information in front of Chang Haonan.

"When I went to inspect, I saw this model there. It's not very big, and its take-off weight is a little smaller than our Y-8. It's over 40 tons, which can basically suppress the upper limit of the mutual recognition agreement we reached with Europe. , the other party probably also wants to use us to obtain the airworthiness of European models, so that even if it cannot be sold to the EU, it will be easier to export to third world countries. "

“What we are considering is, is it possible for us to build a 40-ton regional airliner all by ourselves?”

 Obviously, after experiencing various surprises in the past year, the Science and Technology Committee's ideas have become wild.

  After all, the 60-ton Y8 has been built, and the 40-ton regional airliner seems to be able to handle it.

Chang Haonan was a little embarrassed when he heard this idea.

Although he has been cheated, it is not the kind of violent cheat that turns directly into a violent cheat. The Basic Law still needs to be abided by.

The design principles of passenger aircraft and military aircraft are completely different. Since comfort and economy issues must be taken into consideration, the difficulty is actually much greater than that of military aircraft of the same level.

Apart from anything else, the ARJ21-700, which was basically the same level as the Tu-334 in its previous life, received a lot of foreign technical support. It was designed starting in 2002, and it was not until 2006 that the construction of the first prototype began, and it was delivered for operation in 2015. .

Even if Chang Haonan focuses his subsequent work on passenger aircraft, based on China's current overall technological level, this process will take at least three or four years.

I'm afraid Hufei won't be able to wait until that time.

So he thought about his words and replied:

“If you spend a few years designing, it's not necessarily impossible…”

"But based on the current situation of Hufei, the top priority is to put a model into production as soon as possible to re-establish the confidence of employees, especially front-line workers. This year is catching up with the wave of layoffs from state-owned enterprises. If the factory falls into a long-term shutdown, I am afraid it will have to People's minds change.”

"Um…"

The angle mentioned by Chang Haonan made Huai Guomo fall into a brief thought:

 “Also, there is one more thing.”

 He continued to increase his bets,

"Similar to the situation with the AL31F engine on Project 11, because the PS90 engine used in Figure 204 has a wide range of installation targets, the Perm Engine Factory may not be willing to transfer power system-related technology to us, but the D436T1 engine on Figure 334 You can definitely fight for it and get it together with the plane."

"The reason is easy to explain. In order to comply with the requirements of the Mutual Recognition Agreement on Airworthiness between China and Europe, the localization rate of the aircraft must be maintained above a certain level. For the Tu334 model, Tupolev is definitely better than us. Don't worry, and the Ivchenko-Progressive Design Bureau is only breathing its last breath now, so the resistance should not be great.”

D436T1 is a 7.5-ton high-bypass turbofan engine of the same level as the CF34-10A. The most valuable thing is that it is almost the only model that has an advantage in fuel consumption compared to its American counterparts.

Moreover, it is difficult for Ermao to obstruct the technology transfer of D436 like the D18 or D36 engines, because the intellectual property rights of this engine are a mess. The Ufa Engine Industrial Complex and Salyut Aircraft Engine Company also control about half of the production capacity. and property rights.

 This is something Soros will soon experience.

 In short, if this operation is successful, it will save Chang Haonan at least two to three years of effort.

Such a bargaining chip obviously easily persuaded Huai Guomo:

　　“This is indeed a big problem, I will report your opinions to it...”

"By the way, if the contract is generally signed according to these conditions, then the future Tu-334 and Tu-204 will become highly customized, and our country can obtain fully intellectual property models, just like the J-11, we should also have our own Do you have any ideas about the name?”

 “Is this...”

Chang Haonan couldn't help but smile.

 The naming method of Huaxia's large aircraft in the previous life is actually good and can be directly copied:

“Airbus planes start with A, and Boeing planes start with B, so we'll use C, which happens to be the first letter of China.”

“We in China value nine, so the first mainline passenger aircraft produced by the Shanghai Aircraft Factory can be called C909, just like Boeing, followed by 919, 929..."

“As for the branch line, the grade is still a little lower after all. You can settle for the second best and use 8. The first one is called C808, which is also an auspicious number..."

 While the two were chatting and laughing, the naming method of Huaxia C-series passenger aircraft was decided.

 (End of this chapter)

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